Pete Zahut

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  What Were You or Someone You Knew Counseled For That Was Ridiculous?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  back in the day, tons of witnesses were brought in the “back room “ to be counseled by elders because of their dress and grooming.

  some elders frowned on mustaches or hair that went past a certain point on a male.

  women were regularly harassed because their skirt was too long or too short or had a slit on the side.

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  When we were High School we were good kids and we really tried to be good JW's but somehow our hair and or sideburns were always too long, 2 door cars were inappropriate for service, clothes too trendy etc etc, One evening my friend and I were sitting together during the meeting and the Presiding Overseer was sitting behind us. He leaned forward and whispered into my friends ear, "Get a hair cut or I'll pull your publishers card". My friend who had had about enough of the whole thing, whispered back "Pffft....go for it !"

  Another time we had a 50's party and some guys dressed as "greasers" and some girls dressed as "bobby soxers", somebody was Elvis and someone else was Marylin Monroe and another was Groucho Marx etc. The Circuit Overseer heard about it and when he visited the Congregation the following week, said that instead of imitating worldly people and sex goddesses from the 1950's, it would have been more proper for us to have dressed like JW's engaged in the ministry in the 1950's. (there was a lot of eye rolling and suppressed guffaws)

  Years later, when the Musician Prince passed away from a drug overdose, that same Circuit Overseer was was quoted in the media as having said that Prince was an approved Jehovah's Witness in good standing. Apparently a JW man prancing around on stage in androgynous dress and make-up singing sexually charged songs is ok but don't dress like a greaser at a 50's party.
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  Devout JW's Beat Their 12 Year Old Daughter to Death

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this happened several years ago but.... holy christ!

  they beat the poor girl 160 times with a 3/4 inch cable!

  "in a slow, steady voice, assistant state's atty.

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  Not a big shock seeing as how they are still taking these ancient texts literally (when it suits them) and there are often mixed messages. Women at ties must wear head coverings around men and boys if they're baptized jw's, blood is sacred until it's separated into fractions and children are beaten, lovingly.

  Proverbs 23:14

  Do not withhold discipline from a child; although you strike him with a rod, he will not die. 14 Strike him with a rod, and you will deliver his soul from Sheol.

  
  Proverbs 13:24
  He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

  Proverbs 22:15
  Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

  
  
  
  
  
  
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  So telling that there are no little children

  by eyeslice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watching in on my wife's zoom meeting last night, there was an item about discipline is love.

  they played a 'caleb' animated cartoon and then the instructions were 'if possible, ask selected young children' several questions.. it seems however, that there are no children in my wife's current congregation so the questions were all answered by retired brothers and sisters.

  the congregation mainly consists of elderly people (like us) and the few of childbearing age seem not interested in having children.

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  I remember being amused when once there was an embarrassing topic that touched on immortality. A kid about twelve had his hand up to give an answer. NO adult commented 🤣.

  Reminds me of a Sunday Watchtower study where a little girl was called on to answer the question was "What is the difference between literal Circumcision and Circumcision of the heart?" She went on to describe and compare each of these things. It seemed very inappropriate and I wondered what any non JW visitor might be thinking.
  
  
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  Anyone know a link to the leaked music video the cult is so upset about?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been hearing the cult is upset that this video leaked and is trying to remove it off the net.

  lol are they really that stupid?

  but if anyone has a link to the video i would love to see it.

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  If get what you’re saying but by that logic, if someone took a photo or video of my 1980 Chevette and posted it online, I’d still own it and it would have the same value or possibly more if so if someone saw it and just had to have it at any price.

  Not a nice thing to do but he person posting the watchtower video likely wasn’t claiming to own or or have produced it nor is it likely they were making a profit. The Watchtower thinks everything they do is a huge holy secret.
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  Anyone know a link to the leaked music video the cult is so upset about?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been hearing the cult is upset that this video leaked and is trying to remove it off the net.

  lol are they really that stupid?

  but if anyone has a link to the video i would love to see it.

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  4 hours ago

  I believe in patent and copyright law. People need to get paid for their work

  isn’t the watchtower a “ non profit”... what money were they hoping to make from this? Wasn’t the “work” done by unpaid volunteers? Isn’t getting the good news out there by any means, their main goal?
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  Was your faith in Armagedddon connected to current events?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember when nixon resigned?

  the big a was here some said.

  remember 1986 and the "international year of peace and security?

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  In terms of the end, Y2K was a sure thing until it came and went and then the twin towers fell a year later...that was 20 years ago.

  
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  Transparency Questions

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here are some questions to ask witnesses.

  how would you alter or improve or add to them?.

  transparency questions.

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  Are those who make contributions at assemblies or meetings given a detailed report on what the contributions are spent on or do they simply trust that they are being spent wisely?

  Would it be improper for a JW especially a sister or a brother who holds no position, to ask to see a detailed report of the congregations spending?

  Are JW's provided with the "business plan" of the organization or are they free to see leaderships meeting agendas or sit in on their meetings or view videos of their leaders discussing matters pertaining to the future of the organization they are finically supporting?
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  Do You Think White People Are Being Discriminated Against?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some call it reverse discrimination.

  whatever you want to refer to as, in your opinion, are white people being unfairly picked on?

  it seems acceptable that if you are white you are viewed with disdain.

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  Discrimination is discrimination, racism is racism and prejudice is prejudice. Anyone can engage in such behavior and these behaviors can be acted out or experienced on an individual/personal basis or in a systemic/ institutional way.

  The demand for equality for all, has made it so that anyone in a position of power or advantage,(males, whites, the wealthy, corporations, teachers, police, politicians etc) are now held to a higher standard when it comes to these matters. When a person in a position of power discriminates against someone with no power, the consequences can be devastating to the one discriminated against. When a person in a position of power or advantage is discriminated against by someone who isn't in such a position, the consequences are typically less far reaching. This is why there seems to be a double standard. It's not Ok for men to make generalizations about women but women can say horrible things about men in general without being accused of being sexist. It's not Ok for White people to make generalizations about persons of color but they are free to make generalizations about whites without being considered racist. If heterosexuals make generalizations about Gay people, they're called homophobic.

  The problem lies with some who have used their position of power to make it virtually impossible for the powerless to gain equality. From the big boy or girl bully in the playground to the powerful King or Queen waring with a weak country, this has been one of mankinds main problems throughout history and it has happened among every race and nationality. It happens in governments and in our time in history white people happen to be the ones left holding the bag. When measures are taken to remedy the situation, it comes across as a war on white people rather than as an attempt to bring equality to all.

  Keeping racism alive is a money maker. Thanks in part to the media and to the race hustlers, rather than presenting the issue as institutional or systemic or as an ongoing human issue, they make sure to play upon our narcissistic human tendencies. They make sure people are taking it personally as if it is about them or happening to them. White individuals who may have no more power than anyone else and who have never treated anyone unfairly, feel as if they are being blamed/punished for the wrongs committed by others and persons of color feel as if whites are generally out to get them and on it goes.
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  Article in The Australian: Jehovah's Witnesses facing tax turmoil

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.theaustralian.com.au/.../64acd93d531eb6b7301d.... .

  sorry, the article is behind a paywall.

  however, here's a copy of it without the photo:.

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  In a statement, Watchtower director Terry O’Brien denied the ACNC had moved to strip the organisation of its charity registration. “The ACNC has assured the - directors that they do not intend to revoke Watchtower Australia’s charity status,” Mr O’Brien said.

  
  

  If what O'Brien says is true, and the ACNC didn't move to have their charitable status removed, then why did the Watchtower file for a review of the ACNC's decision?

  
  

  According to an application for judicial review filed by Watchtower, the ACNC’s decision is “unlawful” and an “unreasonable and inappropriate exercise” of its discretion.
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  Larry Graham interview, last days quote

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know stephen lett's infamous quote that we're living in "the final part of the final part of the last days!

  shortly before the last day of the last days.".

  well, there is an interesting interview with larry graham and his family that has a variant on this, where he says that we're living in "the last of the last of the last days".

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  I haven't been able to find anything however on their daughter.

  He became a JW in the 80's when he was in his late 30's when the end was right around the corner. He's now 76 years old and I heard he was recently reproved for serving Graham crackers at his zoom Memorial. I'm guessing that between his son Darric and his daughter Latia, he probably has Graham-kids by now.